June 25, 2005

Obesity in the Christian World

The acknowledgement of good and bad was the practicality of your moral ethics working for you, but are you using it faithfully when it matters?

With the majority of the population, estimated at 90% in the U.S., being oriented with some form of a religious belief system, there should be no doubt about whether spirituality plays a part in our everyday lives. Even those people who have turned away from their prior beliefs make urgent decisions based on the belief system that is embedded into the sub-conscious.

Choices that are made through life, ethical, spiritual and physical, is the texture we weave our life into. Every individual's reality affects the reality of another, this is easily proven by going up to a sad stranger with your bright smile and telling them to have a blessed day. Now imagine going up to a smiling person and verbally abusing them because they are suffering from a disease.

The acknowledgment of the first scenario as good and the second as bad was the practicality of your moral ethics working for you, but are you using it faithfully when it matters?

According to the director of the CDC, obesity is a chronic disease of epidemic proportions, with a conservative estimate of nearly one-third of the population being obese. The ASBP, American Society of Bariatric Physicians, estimates that 33 to 40 percent of woman and 20 to 24 percent of men are trying to lose weight at any given time.

Obesity is a chronic disease that wins second place in the preventable death category.

Given the two variables, the percentage rate of obesity and the percentage of those that have a religious orientation, we can assume that around ninety percent of those that are overweight are centered with a belief system. Yet, the two topics are like mixing oil and water in a boiling pot.

That is not to say that the belief system of an individual is an unimportant factor in the subject of weight loss. It is a well known fact that health is tied to positive thinking, the very thing that is sought for by followers of all religions and belief systems. There have been well documented cases of miracles and healings of different diseases on those of various faiths.

Within the catch all net of the Web, lies gems of online support groups for those trying to lose weight., with some of which are meant for pre- or post- weight loss surgery patients and their supporters. Wise words from others trekking the tedious journey of weight loss lightens the burden of stress, and caring messages massage the sore muscles that kink the back of courage.

There is a deluge of weight loss sites that welcome all that register, although some are specific to gender, age, region or religion. For almost every condition known to man, there is at least one support group that defines the role of the broken body or spirit. Psychologically, this can be very beneficial to members that have little or no family support, or those that have closed their selves off from society.

While many seek comfort within an open online weight loss community, sometimes their comfort is fleeting. By making the careless mistake of offending someone else's sensibility with an off-handed remark of the Divine, they become the new target for displaced anger. In some cases, communities have set the rule of "Do not mention God, Buddha or any other topics not directly related to weight loss." By setting the rules of the playing field, questions on mind, body and spirit can be put to rest, and more action focused on the physical goal.

This form of religious discrimination is designed to help and support the members without the distraction of arguments and passionate theological debates. The catch 22 is the fact that most people will tell you, except for Atheists, that the Divine is not an invisible part of them, but rather an indistinguishable part.

As a morbidly obese person, the resulting health and mental problems faced are multiplied since there is much discrimination directed at them from the public. Stereotypes of what a fat person is, or isn't, is generally degrading and cruel. Labels like lazy, weak willed, stupid and worthless hang over the heads of sufferers. Even in the knowledgeable medical field, including Bariatric professionals, health care workers hold true to the biased belief that it is an ethical disease that dieting and exercise would cure.

Unfortunately, there is also prejudice against weight problems by the religious community. As one Christian lady so bluntly phrased it, "But then that is the way of the world- people are cruelly judged when they are overweight and the religious community does not tend to be gentler in that regard." With that in mind, does it surprise you that suicides contributed to the factor of obesity and the stigma thereof is as high as five times that of other factors?

Christianity seems to be set apart from other belief systems with their perspective of Obesity being a sin against God. Although nearly all, if not precisely all, spiritual groups do recommend being healthy in body and soul, the lone system of Christianity is filled with possible sins that could be a downfall to Hell.

Gluttony is only one of the major sins in this religion. Many obese Christians have had to wait out sermons given by pastors that used the sin of Gluttony as an example time and time again. Weight troubles are seen as self-imposed problems, the result of sin. If the sin was gone, so would the weight be.

A Christian is very likely have feelings of guilt due to their inability to rid themselves of the sin. Phrases like "you should pray more" or "you should take better care of God's temple" make more rounds than a door-to-door salesman, and adds to the sore feeling of failure.

Generally, the Christian-based weight loss groups can be split into two types. The logical weight loss programs that combine common sense and medicine with support from faith, and the 'God will heal me' programs that doesn't realistically deal with solutions.

As you can see, the logical program would produce more and faster results than the faith only program. It is these faith only groups that can become detrimental to the health and mental well being of the obese Christian. These programs are out of sync with the 'God helps those that help their selves' philosophy, and is silently killing those who cannot muster up the faith to beat morbid obesity.

Within the internet however, a new tree of life is growing, one that has its roots in medical solutions, a trunk made of faith, strong branches of common sense and painted leaves of joy. It is the logical, faith groups for support of pre-or-post weight loss surgery patients that is blazing this new frontier.

Once again, Christianity has set itself apart from other mainstream religions and belief systems. While all belief codes essentially want the best for the believer, the sin of vanity is assumed to have befallen the obese person that considers weight loss surgery. Biased views of what God wants, and doesn't want, becomes an integral part of the discrimination of obese people, even by individuals that don't consider themselves to be practicing Christians.

Judgment also befalls patients when others think the money would be better spent on charity than a vanity surgery. The grouping of weight loss surgery with plastic surgery such as face lifts and breast implants is an unfair viewpoint, mostly made by those that are ignorantly prejudice.

However, these same discriminators is agreeable with plastic surgeries that are corrective in nature, such as for burn victims or birth defects. There is no requirement that the patients had not caused their predicament. Nor is there any perceived sin in deciding to have surgery.

The matter of organ transplants have been in debate for yours. Questions of what God wants is not assuredly answered with Bible scriptures since there seems to be points for both sides of the do or don't situation. However, the large percentage of Christians that fully support the organ transplant surgeries do not consider whether the organ receiver has caused the damage that needs fixed, such as a liver diseased due to alcoholism or lungs diseased from chain smoking.

Ironically, some formerly-overweight church members participate in the mental torture of those that are overweight and those that choose surgery. More insanely, what they perceive as 'taking the easy way out' is honestly a viable life threatening process that demands and requires the near absence of both vanity and gluttony.

The high level of discrimination might be a contributing factor to the low frequency of Christian WLS support group meetings in the U.S. Therefore, being that the online Christian WLS community is of like minded peers, the e-mail groups have become more than friendly words, but have become the safe haven where everyone is family, and where discrimination is being kept to a minimum.

But why is there so much discrimination against obesity? It affects millions of people from all walks of life. It is almost impossible for a person not to be able to name at least three obese people that they know well. Obesity is not an indicator of maliciousness, criminal activity, mental illness or retardation. It is not contagious.

So generally speaking, the discrimination is without a logical sturdy foundation. Yet, it thrives and bears many fruits of hate and anger.

Or is there a foundation? One might consider in their pondering of the situation, that the problem of obesity is not a soul's dilemma, but a problem of the physical body we live in, that we survive in.

Our minds still hold the same instinctive nature that mankind's ancestors depended on to survive. We still subconsciously evict the people, plants and animals that are different from what we know, so that we don't receive physical harm through them. It's not only obesity, it's anything that we instinctively coil from (disfigurements, handicaps, growling dogs, weird looking fungus'), but also dangerous situations, such as burning houses and flying bullets.

'Equal children play best' because they feel safe, physically and mentally. Is that to say it's excusable behavior? No. There is never excusable discrimination. But it does provide a valid link to understanding the biased human mind, and more specifically the Christian human mind. The basis of ignorant discrimination in the 'raw' human mind's fight for survival is subconsciously transferred to maintaining the high ethical code for the soul's survival into heaven.

To die is to lose the physical problems and ailments of this life. Since reincarnation is suggested in various other mainstream religions, the pressure to live right is tempered by the assumed knowledge of doing better in the next life around.

Christianity has no such law of try and try again. The finish line is the end of the chance to prove oneself. The final judgment decides the soul's eternal rightful residence. With the perceived sin of gluttony and other variable ignorant ideas, the survival instinct perceptively kicks in and protects the soul from outer sources.

So, with the coupling of mind and soul protective instincts, there arises an unfortunate amount of fear. Knowledge can overcome fear, and love of the fellow man can overcome discrimination. Love and caring for neighbors and enemies is a tenet of the Christian faith. The chances are good that with facts and correct guidance, discrimination will be replaced with Divine love for all.

In what way can the religious community be de-programmed? First of all, it takes more than one person to change the discriminatory habits of a multitude. And it cannot be overcome in a matter of hours or days.

The embarrassed or ashamed obese individual may not be willing to point out to others the misconceptions of obesity. Yet, this is one of the requirements to bringing about change.

Scientific and medical data should be cited to others, so that pointing out their conception of a lazy and weak willed individual is not received as a rationalism from the obese person. Information should not be given only to the selected few that are tolerant, but to those that are cruel with their intolerance.

The authorities within the church should be confronted with the problem. Once again, medical data should be gone over with a calm mind and a loving and forgiving heart. For every scripture that defines the discriminator's perspective, a variety of scriptures can define what God says is the ultimate truth.

History has taught that major changes don't happen overnight, so patience and commitment must become an integral part of the war on discrimination.

A pre-made sermon to speak with your clergy and church members could follow the following model of presentation:

2 Kings 7: 3,5- focus on the fact that God uses everyone to do his work.

Galatians 5: 22-23- focus on these fruits as fruits of God

Romans 8: 26- focus on that God knows we are of physical bodies and are prone to sin even when the spirit doesn't want to. This goes for every sin, every temptation, including prejudice.

John 15:17- how God wants us to treat each other, in love

Galatians 6: 7- everyone reaps what they have sown. And each person only answers for their sin, not the sin of others

2 Corinthians 10: 3- the bible says our enemies are not flesh and blood, we war with Satan, the real enemy.

Ephesians 6: 12- who is our real enemy? Satan and darkness.

Isaiah 54:17- those that are being used as a weapon of the Devil will not prosper

James 3: 2-8- tame the tongue

Mathew 12: 34-35- what treasure does tongues come from

James 3: 13-16- let them show themselves

1 Corinthians 13: 11-13- as you grow spiritually, so should you grow out of worldly acts and things. charity is charity of the soul, such as love, mercy, acceptance, tolerance and forgiveness.

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Posted by Mary at 15:58:23 | Permanent Link | Comments (10) |
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1 - what? to quote you:
"Christianity seems to be set apart from other belief systems with their perspective of Obesity being a sin against God. Although nearly all, if not precisely all, spiritual groups do recommend being healthy in body and soul, the lone system of Christianity is filled with possible sins that could be a downfall to Hell."

are you living in a bubble? christianity is not the only religion that predicts some sort of hell for sinners, and you reference yourself reincarnation which could very well be seen as a hell of sorts.

you generalize way too much.

where do you get your idea that chiristianity has "their" perspective of obesity as a sin against god? stop coloring christianity by what some dopes say. nowhere in the bible does it say that obesity is a sin against god. have you researched what the bible says about gluttony? no, you haven't. the bible just says that gluttony is harmful to your body, and you are to be a steward over your body. of course it's wrong to overeat! but NOWHERE does it say you're going to hell for being fat.

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Written by: pc at 2005/06/27 - 20:41:15
2 - 1) Christianity is the only religion that has dictated Gluttony to be a major sin.
2) I contacted the following religions 'authority' about their truth with this- Catholic, Pentecostal, 3 kinds of Baptists, Islamic, Buhdist, Jewish, Satanist, Wiccan, Atheist, Muslim and other Pagan religions.
3) I wrote this with several hundred Christians input, and they have deemed this article nicely worked. I have even recieved thank yous from the people I worked with
4) I was raised Pentecostal in a very strict Christian home. I transferred to Baptist when I was 14 of my own will. I have worked in the Bus Ministry, the Youth Ministry, and as an assistant to a Sunday School teacher. I even helped in the Church Nursery for a time. I have served on Bible Quiz Club. I have been baptized three times. I have studied the Christian religion for too many years to count, I guess you could say since the time I was born. I have studied other religions and belief systems for nearly ten years.
5) I did not saythat Christianity was the only religion to have any type of 'Hell'. I merely implied that Christianity was the only religion to say Gluttony could be a downfall to Hell
6) Reincarnation is not viewed as a 'Hell of sorts' by any religion. It is deemed as a way of learning all the lessons that is needed to be learned before rising to a higher concisnous.

I am expecting a call from a man who has been a preacher and pastor for more years than I have been married, and I and my husband just celebrated our 16th anniversary this month. Any way, when he finishes his yardwork, he's calling to tell me where the scripture says it is a sin, and I WILL BE LISTING IT! This article was given to me by God and I stand by him. No matter which Bible or religion you choose to follow, He will be there for you. Even when you think you are too weak to follow, He will lift you up and carry you to where he wants you.

And from what I gather, you did not read and study the scriptures I listed. If you would have, you would have seen that I showed how the Devil is using Christians to WAR with the flesh and blood instead of the Devil and the darkness, which God has commanded we fight. By being at WAR with me, flesh and blood, You Are Being Used By The Devil To Hurt God's Work. Am I saying you choose to hurt God's work? No. I'm saying you are being tricked into it through fear, anger, and hate. Imagine how much good we would do if we trusted God and worried about our own backyard. (Comment this)

Written by: Rose Hunt at 2005/06/28 - 02:22:07
3 - Gluttony is all things which you partake of more than your rightful, fair, modest share. Food, cars, sex, clothes,jewely or whatever you can name.
Although a few verses show Gluttony is a sin, I think this scripture says it best.


Luke 21: 33-36; King James version.
"surfeiting" means overeating
Heaven and Earth shall pass away; but my words shall not pass away.
And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come on you unawares.
For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.
Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

I would like to remind everyone, that this article started out to be how people of various religions make choices about obesity problems and Bariatric surgery. Bariactric surgery is well known as 'getting your stomach stapled'. In other words, weight loss surgery.
What I found instead of a variety of answers was that everything fell into groups. One group was all the religions that held the belief that you should keep yourself healthy, and if it requires surgery to be healthy than so be it. But it is more desirable to lose weight naturally or never gain it in the first place.
But the second group, Christianity, didn't fall into a nice little group. Christians fell not so much into a group, but fell into two groups- the discriminated and the discriminators.
The discriminated was of course over-weight, sometimes morbidly over-weight, members that hears biblical phrases and cruel remarks from church members and leaders about "if they would only..." Of course anyone that had to go through the put downs of a 'moral society' would want to hide away and keep theirselves 'safe', even if it means not going to worship and rejoice in God.

I also am not picking on Christianity. I will be honest about every religion or topic, with no bias.

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Written by: Rose Hunt at 2005/06/29 - 01:48:59
4 - Hi Rose,
Just wanted to commend you on a thoughtful, well written article. I have really enjoyed reading it and you have some interesting perspectives. Well done
Juliet (Comment this)

Written by: Juliet at 2005/06/29 - 03:51:01
5 - Is there a true quote "God helps those who helps theirselves." If so where in the bible? Just curious as have heard this many a time as child. So far have not found exact quote. (Comment this)

Written by: Meg Cabell at 2005/08/13 - 17:09:03
6 - When I was writing this exact phrase, I looked for scripture that was in similiar wording. I did not find an exact quote. Although I do have several scriptures I could referance to show that it is a truth or near-truth, I won't. Let me tell you why.
For every set of words that imply this, there is another set that says trust in God and he will supply your needs. For every action that shows how God has asked us to take a step for ourselves, there is another action that shows how much God loves us, and in his love we are helped and comforted.
We are not as much as God is. We are small children to him. I can't believe that God would only take care of those that have the strength and courage to do it theirselves.
When Jesus spat into the dust and made the mud that he put on a blind man's eyes, he did not tell that man to do anything beforehand. He didn't tell the blind man to do anything until after he-Jesus- took first action. Only then did he tell him to go wash in the Pool of Si-lo'-am. The man did and was healed. (John 9: 1-7)Please note- this pool was thought to be other than a real place, but it has recently been found by archeoligists and has been proved to be the exact real place that Jesus did this!
I think I would be doing a great dis-service if I agreed with the 'God helps those that helps theirselves' as being an absolute truth. Unfortunately, in my opinion, mankind gets wrapped up in what they percieve to be the one and only truth on everything they come across.
Like I said before, mankind is not as much as God. We as a group just like to think so.
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Written by: Rose Hunt at 2005/08/15 - 06:27:26
7 - Meg Cabell,

This is because Benjamin Franklin said it not God. (Comment this)

Written by: Anonymous at 2007/12/30 - 10:57:35 in reply to: 5
8 - all obese are evill sinner and burn burn in hell stjohn
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Written by: Anonymous at 2008/05/02 - 20:00:40
9 - Rose,
I know you wrote this three years ago, but just as the Bible is timeless so is the topic of being overweight. It is a shame that folks can't disagree with you without getting personal and rude.
I suppose that God doesn't want anyone to be overweight, especially if it is a stumbling block to us being his disciples. I personally struggle with just being chubby, as I have my whole life, not eating properly and not exercising. In my opinion, my weight situation is sinful, because I have not truly given my problem to God and had faith that through Him I can overcome my eating issues and have the will to improve my physical condition. I came across your article as I was searching for verses concerning obesity or gluttony or sloth, so that I might begin to meditate on those scriptures. By studying the Bible I have found it easier to turn away from most temptations, but I have not focused my studies on turning away from being unhealthy. I will continue to search for verses to memorize and interject into my thoughts as I am sitting at the drive thru at McDonalds.

As far as the daily struggles of morbidly obese people, I really don't know what to say. Chances are that issues exist beyond a hankering for Mississippi Mud cake. And clearly these issues must be given up to God and there must be faith that God's will be done. I would say that church members who would judge an obese person and criticize them for not being able to overcome obesity, have a cheese "log" in their eye. What ever happened to Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. What ever happened to Love your neighbor as yourself. Perhaps their pastor needs to do a sermon series on not being one of Job's friends.
Thanks for putting so much time and effort into your article and giving me something to think about.
God bless you!
John (Comment this)

Written by: John at 2008/05/16 - 04:46:38
10 - I have a friend who is morbidly obsese. I need to know
from someone out there who has suffered from being obese, what can a friend offer? I have walked with my friend in the past but have moved away since, so I am not there to
offer physical presence and support. What else can I offer? I feel I am the closest friend she has and if I
don't talk about it with her, she is not talking about
it all. Does it help to pass along articles on surgery or
eating habits? I love her and don't want her to be hurt
but I feel like I have to keep bringing it up, should I? (Comment this)

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